Episode 186 • Aug 20, 2025
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John McGee, Dave Bruskas, & others
Zeal is more than emotion. It’s an abiding passion for Jesus that sustains us in both fruitful and difficult seasons of ministry.
In this episode of the Church Leadership Podcast, John McGee is joined by Dave Bruskas, Emma Dotter, and Kylen Perry to discuss what “zeal” really means, why it matters, and how leaders can cultivate it. Together they talk through:
The difference between “zeal” for results vs. “zeal” for Jesus
The subtle threats that cause zeal to fade—burnout, apathy, distraction, and opposition
Practical ways to reignite your heart and sustain passion for the long haul of ministry
If your fire feels dim or if you want to keep it burning brighter, this episode is for you.